Episode 3

The one about Becoming a Wisdom Well - A Client Case Study Episode

Published on: 1st February, 2024

In this week's episode, I speak to Jill Robinson, a movement, Pilates and Breathwork teacher with over 25 years of teaching fitness, holistic wellness and women’s health. This is the first in a series of episodes where I interview my clients so that you get a behind-the-scenes view of what its really like to work with me.

Listen on to hear:

  • Where she was before working with me, what made her say yes even though I wasn't what she thought she was looking for, and why she highly recommends trusting your gut.
  • The impact of the clarity and focus that she's gotten by embodying her Human Design. [2/4 Sacral Manifesting Generator]
  • What has helped her go from feeling disorganised, unprepared and unprofessional, to feeling and behaving like the Wisdom Well that she actually is!
  • What it's really like to have someone see beyond the layers that you outwardly project, and what opening up to deeper intimacy has done for her business, energy and bank balance.

Plus, in this week's behind-the-scenes 'The Patron Part with Jill Robinson' you get to hear the best and the worst bits of working with me. The most valuable part of her experience, her favourite bit, when she last felt truly satisfied, and the secret to reverse ageing!

About Jill:

Jill is a movement, Pilates and Breathwork teacher with over 25 years teaching fitness, holistic wellness and women’s health. She runs her popular Pilates studio in County Durham. She fuses the physical and the mystical, and believes that true health encompasses all the bodies of wellness - physical, emotional, mental and spiritual.

She has written a book ‘The Embodied Core’ which brings together the science of pelvic and back pain in women, with the deeper emotional and spiritual areas that get overlooked in modern medical assessments. Her book is available from Amazon or website below.

You can find her here on her website www.organicpilates.co.uk

Insta https://www.instagram.com/organic_pilates_and_breathwork

Fb https://www.facebook.com/OrganicPilatesandHolisticHealth

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Transcript
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This week's guest is a movement, Pilates and breathwork teacher

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with over 25 years experience teaching fitness, holistic

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wellness and women's health. She runs her popular Pilates studio

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in County Durham, and she fuses the physical with the mystical

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and believes that true health encompasses all the bodies of

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wellness physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual. She has

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written about the embodied core which brings together science of

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pelvic and back pain in women with the deeper emotional and

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spiritual areas that are overlooked in modern medical

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assessments. She's also a client of mine and this episode is the

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first of a few where I take you behind the scenes and reveal

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what it's really like to work with me. This one is the one

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about becoming the wisdom well.

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You are listening to adulting with Ebonie. Season seven brings

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together neurodiversity Human Design and embodiment so that

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Gen X or millennial misfits, and late diagnosed neuro spaces

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become empowered, embodied and fully expressed. This is the

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show where I actively encourage you to feel your feelings rather

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than think that glow up, not grow up and become full of

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yourself. Because who the fuck else should you be full of each

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week I have real and raw conversations about what it

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takes to be fully resourced and have happy, healthy, intimate

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relationships as a dopamine deficient adult wanting to

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create a better future by being the change that you want to see

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in the world. I'm your host Ebonie Allard aka editing

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alchemy and late diagnosed AudHDer combined type Aspergers

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in case you'd like specifics artist, mystic and self

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actualization facilitator, I'm an international award winning

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multiple brain integration technique master coach with

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special interest in embodied human design for Neuro

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divergence. I've been in the personal development creativity

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and entrepreneurship spaces all of my life and as a five to

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emotional manifesting generator with a left angle cross of

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distraction. I am here to help you know what to trust, and what

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to tune out. Each week I share relatable practical ways that

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mean, you get to take less responsibility for more reward,

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and safely remove your camouflage for more belonging,

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acceptance and fulfilment. Ready, let's go.

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Hello, I'm excited for this conversation, you are the first

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in a little series of editing with ebony questions or

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interviews or whatever we want to call them where I thought I

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would bring on clients and have a little bit of a conversation

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about about adulting. And actually like what's changed or

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what your Yeah, so if I describe myself as a self actualization

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facilitator, right, which is fancy pants, right, for helping

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you become potentially more of an initiated adult, and awesome

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child like in your relation to life? I guess that's I kind of

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wanted to have the conversation about what your journey has been

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like whether that's how you would describe what it is that

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we do. Now, all of those sorts of things. So there's no like,

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set format necessarily. I just thought I'd have a conversation

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about where you were when we started. What the actual working

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with me bit and where you are now, how does that sound?

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That sounds good. Yes. So when I first contacted you, I think I

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thought I first found you on when you did a presentation on

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the breathwork course that I was on, you did a masterclass. And a

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lot of the stuff that you said actually resonated with me about

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having to rebuild your business a couple of times, and I've gone

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through similar situations. So when I contacted you, and you're

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like, I don't really do business coaching, but I do do business

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coaching, but I wouldn't describe myself as a business

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coach, and more of a self actualization coach, I was like,

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I don't know what that means. I didn't really know what my, what

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that would encompass. And so when we started working

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together, I didn't really have any expectations are low that I

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knew that I was ready to take my business to the next level. And

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I knew that I had things that I wanted to achieve with my

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business and places that I wanted to go with it. But I

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wasn't sure how to get there. Like the mechanics of it, where

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maybe I did not the mechanics, but I just needed someone to

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hold me accountable to all of that stuff. And then what we saw

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when we started working together, I was like, oh, and I

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think it was a little bit resistant. At first I was like

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Yeah, I know who I am. I know what I want to do. I know where

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I want to go. And then we had like, a moment where I was just

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like Ah, I had a massive breakdown moment I was just

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like, I'll do this. I don't know what I'm doing energetically and

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then it was just like actually, what Ebonie has been doing is

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like getting me to this point of almost not almost breakdown that

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sounds like really dramatic. It was

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My clients do this right? Could it sound any less scary. Um, but

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I want to come back because I do I want I love this and I want to

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go into it. But I also want to know like if you thought what

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you wanted was a business coach, and you thought what you wanted

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was accountability in the nicest possible Wait, why did you why

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did you say yes to working with me? Because we've just like

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you've just said you I said I'm not a business coach. And I

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probably also said, I'm not going to hold you accountable.

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That's what you're looking for. And then like I appeared in your

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world, and like, what was it that actually made you say,

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Yeah, I'm gonna give you more money than I want to, or

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something that isn't what I said.

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I don't know. But something felt like now that I know, I haven't

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worked with you how I make decisions. Cognitively. I cannot

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tell you what it was because I don't know. It wasn't a thought

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process that I went through was like Ebony's got that thing that

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I want? It was down here it was my gut that just went yeah,

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Ebonie's the coach, you need to have her. And whatever it takes.

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And as I've been working with you now, and we've been looking

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at human design, manifesting generator and all of that kind

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of stuff, that actually makes sense now that I just went with

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my gut feeling. And I knew that whatever it was going to offer

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was going to be the right day. I thought I didn't know what that

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was.

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And I just want to make that like, I love that you've shared

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it like that, because it is that that is how the best decisions

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are made from that place. Not from this place. Right? But like

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so not from your mind, not from logic, but from your own

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authority and your strategy. And like you said, you responded

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like we I was in a, in a in a breathwork facilitation, like

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training. I think it was on leadership or feminine

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leadership as well. And there was a response. And then we had

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conversations and again, your mind said, accountability,

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business coach next level, but the body had other ideas and was

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like, Okay, go on, then, you know, I'm saying Yes,

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apparently, I'm going with this. And so that does take a certain

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level of courage. And then also as we've looked at your human

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design, and the to fullness of again of like, What you also

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said, Maybe I didn't know the strategy. Yeah, you did your to,

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you know, everything, you don't actually need me to tell you

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what to do. But often, it's that clarity, that focus, the

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managing thing of like, I need to do everything right now. What

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do I actually do first? All of that, I think, is where we've

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actually gone with it.

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Yeah, I would agree. And actually, knowing that that's

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how I work. I used to think that that was like me just being

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really disorganised or unprepared. Or, you know, but

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actually, I know that, like, I've never had a lesson plan for

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the last 20 years of teaching, you know, in some teachers have

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lesson plans for every single lesson. And I'm like, I rock off

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and just see what comes through. And I thought that was me being

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unprepared or not being professional enough, because

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that's what we taught that we need to do. But actually, it's

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not it's that that's my intuition that I can read a room

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and know what comes, what comes in, and trust that I know that I

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will teach the class that is needed right there right now,

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rather than one that I've prepared, maybe two months

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earlier.

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So and yeah, the two line in me seems to take them in a new

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right. How, as knowing your operating system, and like like,

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like you said at the beginning you were a little bit resistant

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to going further into the human design and the mechanics and

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like all of it really like the there was a little part of you

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that was like just give me a strategy. Yeah, we went beyond

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that. But how was knowing your human design and understanding

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or being shown these parts of yourself and then checking it

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out for you? How has that impacted your confidence, your

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energy levels, your clarity all of that kind of thing?

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Well, it's given me a real sense of that it's not a fault with me

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it's that's how I work and that I accept that part of me now and

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embrace it more like a Don't worry that you I think before I

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used to worry and think I haven't got a plan. I'm not

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planning on what we're gonna do. But then actually, I don't

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actually need to plan because I just know what to do anyway. So

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that that has helped but also it's given me real clarity on

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you know, everything happens in its it the right time, and I

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just trusted that now, whereas before I think it was To be a

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bit like, push, push, push, you need to do this and you do this

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and the more you push, the less things happen. And actually, the

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more that you sit back and just accept that things will happen

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at the right time. And don't stress about it. And when you

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remove all those layers of conditioning, and all that stuff

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that we carry around with us, because we all do it actually,

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things happen, just in the in the flow, and at the right time

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and the rhythm, and it's actually a lot less stress, it's

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a lot less stressful to be like that. It's also gives you a much

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more clarity, because you're able to look back and see the

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bigger picture, rather than being in the picture. And also,

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it gives you when you've got clarity, you've got power,

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because then you know where you're going, you know what you

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want to do, you know, which which rock to grab on to win the

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floor, and which ones just to let go. As you're flowing down

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that river of life.

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What have we actually done? So you've signed up for like a

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three month package or like an offer that I was doing at the

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time? And then I offered you the opportunity to work with me for

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six months. Yeah. Again, like this was a decision. This was a

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fork in the road and an opportunity to say no, I've

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learned some stuff about me. It's so cool. Thanks, or to stay

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and to commit to six months now other managing again, the longer

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term commitments aren't necessarily a yes. And it wasn't

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a small amount of money to work with me for six months. Again,

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I'm really curious, what, what was the internal processing

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like? And what made you say yes?

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Well, again, I can't really explain it from my head. Asking

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me to explain these things I can't explain. It was like, yes,

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you need to keep working with me, because I thought I felt

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like at that point, we're on the cusp. We've done three months.

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And I felt like, right, okay, she was finally cracking my

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shell. We're getting to the, to the juicy bits. And that I just

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needed to let those juicy bits flow and bring in more juice and

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let juice out let us in and not anyone

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else got like when you said she's finally cracking my show,

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like is that an experience that you'd had before? Like had

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people actually seen through the armour or the like, pretence or

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the smarts, the intelligent? Has anyone seen through that before?

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in quite the same

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way? No, I don't think so. Because I come across as very.

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And I am very, like confident and know who I am. And I'm very,

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like, I've probably come across really like, this woman knows

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where she's gone and what she wants to do. But really inside,

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I'm probably the same as everybody else. And like, this

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is like a bit scary. But I don't let that bit stop me. But it is

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stuck kind of in you were just like, yeah, just like that big

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goal at that big goal and a big goal a bit more. And, and I did

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actually you're the first person, I'd probably have just

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let that bit go and just start. Actually, yeah, where is all

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this coming from? Where do I want to go? What do I want to do

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and be more reflective? I think the little group as well that

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you ran over Christmas, the siren thing was really good as

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well, with all those reflective questions and actually diving

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into what, where, why, how, where do we bring pleasure in

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and all of that kind of stuff? Like, when to actually stop to

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think about these things? It's actually really empowering. And

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I think that's where a lot of women don't do that. We're just

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tunnel vision.

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Well, and also I think there's the resistance piece. And a lot

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of people have fear, because they don't know what the answer

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is going to be long time people's resistance to working

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with me as I will reveal. There are things that the unavailable

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things or the truth or you know, and often people say, us here

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and you hear and see all the things I'm not saying, Ah for

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someone, you know, who is quite protective, quite private, quite

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controlled about what they put out in the world, which which I

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am to it is really scary for her to have somebody seeing beyond

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that. But it also unlocks a place of intimacy. That as you

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say, is actually once you're there, you're like, Oh, this

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feels good. Like I actually I'm opening up safety and power that

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I didn't even know I had access to. Yeah,

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yeah. And I remember you said something when I was because

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I've always been posting stuff with kettlebells. And my hands

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are like doing some Pilates move or doing something and you were

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like, Where where are you? Where is you? And you're like you're

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all over? But there's nothing about you. And I was like, You

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know what? Yeah, actually right. So I did, I did start posting

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more kind of like intimate things, I guess like more about

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me and my journey of where I came from, to where I am now.

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And actually, you know, like, I'm just the same as everybody

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else just gone through this thing of life. It's just that I

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made conscious decisions to set up my own business and start

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doing stuff, that it's really good for my health. So where I

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am now, is not where I would have been if I hadn't made those

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decisions. And, you know, it's not that I'm special. It's just

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that

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well, you are, you're totally special because you made those

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decisions, right. And every single one of those micro

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decisions is terrifying. Yeah, and plenty of people. And one of

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the reasons I wanted to share that is so that, that, you know,

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the working out is happening on the outside. And I think

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particularly for two lines, it's so difficult to do the working

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out on the outside, because we just do it, we don't even

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necessarily recognise that there was working out happening. Yeah,

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I'm able to share a little bit more what feels vulnerable,

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because for us, it requires a process of going from feeling

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into like processes and worth. That can be really, really

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powerful. And it's since working together, you have written a

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book, finished a book, launched a book, created, like a great

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programme, create structure around all the information and

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all the programmes manager and star that you've made, and

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poured it into one thing, so that it is one more accessible

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to other people, but to is takes spreads your energy outlets, so

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there's less power leaks, and allows you to still have fun and

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be spontaneous, but also know exactly where you are in your

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journey. True for you.

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Yes, absolutely. So I've got much more kind of, I think it

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would be logic to say. So in my manifesting generator style, as

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you rightly said, I had like lots of things like all over the

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place. And then you were like, right, okay. Let's just bring

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them all down. And let's look at them. And actually, where are

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your clients coming from? Where do you want them to go to where

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you want them to end up? And what's the transformation? It's

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like, yes, that's, that's the bit that I needed that,

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actually, because I just had these up here, these are para

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la, la, la La, everybody floating around. Nobody was

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linking to get nothing was coherent. So I had my plot is

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bit, my breathwork bit my kind of witchy bit. But that's what I

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needed the whole, like, integration of all the bits that

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and make it logical.

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There's nothing wrong with that. At all the other way around, and

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particularly for mani gens we're somewhere, at least my

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experience was people saying, the way you're doing it's wrong,

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you need to do one thing. And the way you're doing it is not

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an you do not need to do one thing. And let's not mix up

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doing one thing with being coherent, because they are,

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that's not the same thing at all. Yeah. What impact has

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having congruence and coherence in your business, on business,

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and

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it's created more clarity, more freedom, more time for me to do

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the things that I like to do, rather than like having a person

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commit like, like fitting jigsaw pieces together all the time.

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It's actually it's all automated now. So it actually makes sense.

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And it's freed up my time. So the right people, I know where

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to run an advert from now from this bit to go to that bit. And

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it's just, it makes it a lot. And actually, clients come in at

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the right spot, leave at the right spots, if they want to

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leave if it's not for them, which is something else that

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we've learned along the way is like, you know, you can't please

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everybody and don't try to you know, clients will leave you at

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the right when the time is right for them. Yeah, so it's amazing.

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I actually, yeah, can look at my business now and go Yeah, right,

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that person is going to come in there. That person is going to

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come in there. Maybe they'll buy my book, and they'll come in

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from that way. So it's all coherent. It's create a clarity,

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which creates more power, because then you can go

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actually, yes, this is like, now I know where to go from and now,

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so I'm not worried about this bit of the business at the top

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end. I can actually create the bits that I like that will lead

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them to that bit. Eventually because you have to meet your

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clients where they're at. So if they're coming in up there, but

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I really want them down here. I can be working with up, get down

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there with all that sorted.

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So you've got more clarity, more freedom, get to the bits that

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you actually like, rather than constantly worrying about

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workloads coming from where it's coming from. Right. So the Yeah,

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yeah. What does that meant? On the bottom line? Right? Are you

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making the same amount of money, more money, less money? Have you

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made that kind of thing? Where are you at with that?

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So I feel like, well, I'm making more money, definitely. But I

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feel like I'm on the cusp of actually making quite a lot more

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money once I launch my membership programme, which will

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be starting in the next couple of weeks. So then

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we will have started, right? And that will be yes, we will, um,

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well, I'm gonna put all the links in and everything. So you

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do want to share a little bit about where this programme came

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from, what it's called why it's called that, like, give us give

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us

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because Ebonie actually came up with the name. It's called The

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Wisdom Well, which is what my Gene Key, is Gene Key 40, which

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is the wisdom well, and we were talking about Gene Keys, that

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how am I like kind of what I'm here for my purpose was to

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impart wisdom and light, the shadow part of that country's

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son. So it's 70% of your neutrinos, and it's in your

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incarnation cross. Yeah. So you've got that. There's lots of

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other things as well, because some people might be listening,

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going, one gene keen, or you've got loads, but this is what like

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we focused in on that one. And in doing that, there was a real

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shift for you from like, I'm never going to know enough. I

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don't you know, that kind of inadequacy side of wisdom into

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this other place. Yeah, yes.

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And we were talking about that one day, weren't we? And like,

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how this is what my purpose was TFR and my neutrinos. And then

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you went up with some elbow a bit perfect name for something

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witness. Yes. And when you started talking about that, and

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actually, that's where I've come from, was that inadequacy that I

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have never felt that I would know enough. And I spend

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fortunes on trip, like, I've spent absolute bomb on training

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courses and stuff. And you know, what it all actually comes back

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to, we know this stuff inside already. And it's just actually

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starting to bring it out. And so my book, The embodied car, was,

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it's kind of half science, half mystical stuff, bringing the

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mystical and the physical together. And then the wisdom

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well kind of follows on from the book. And it's where we're gonna

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go deeper into all the juicy, the juicy stuff that we don't

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really talk about on the socials and stuff like that. And we're

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gonna go, really into all these things that, as women we need,

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we're taught that we need to do certain things. But actually,

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that's often coming from no don't want to be like, say, like

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in a patronising way, but from male trainers. So we're gonna,

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you need to do this, you need to do that, you need to lift a load

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of words. But actually, if you're wetting yourself, and you

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when you're lift a weight, that is not a good place to come

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from, you need to build from the inside out. And also, there's

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all the other stuff around when you actually look at women's

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pelvic pain, the science will tell you it's not due to being

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sedentary or overweight, which is what the medical world will

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tell you. It's much more about your bladder, your bowel you

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breathe in. And then that comes down to like stress levels and

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how you manage your stress how you manage your life, then that

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comes into boundaries and archetypes and Patriarch, and

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how you react and how you've been told that you need to be.

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But then actually, who are you that's what the western world is

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about. It's about this cusp, that was women of a certain age

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are going to be heading in towards the second spring. And

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it's actually like holding a mirror up to yourself. And

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because by the time we get to this edge, it's like who who

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actually are we and your children are flying the dust,

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your body's changing, your hormones are changing. And

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possibly you've got to this point, never ever asked yourself

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that. And it's like, let's let's face up to it,

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or have an idea of who you are in your minds. That hasn't

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actually evolved. Since the last time you left since you went

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through your Saturn Return right? Since you were like 28 to

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30 You've had this kind of stepping away from your parental

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paradigm. Yes, element of your own authority. And then maybe

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around your mid 40s With your Uranus house return you have

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this like midlife crisis like who am I really chilly. I mean

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those late 40s onwards, like you're saying, we get to enter

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this this second spring and normal parts of the world from

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the wisdom well, and in other parts of the world, dry up

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become useless and unseen. And that is a choice. And what I

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love about what you're doing with this programme is taking

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people on a journey and get to choose You choose what this next

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part of their life looks like, feels like on the incident.

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Absolutely.

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And we have so much more power than what we actually realise.

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And when we like you say you can try and fight it and you know,

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cause maybe more problems, or you can embrace it and actually

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really knuckle down and go deep into it. And what does it mean?

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What, how and how am I changing? Why am I changing? What can I do

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but coming up from a really loving and feminine way, rather

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than we've got to do this, we've got to do that. And don't get me

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wrong. I love weightlifting. And I love all the physical stuff.

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But it's coming at it from a loving perspective. Yeah, how

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are you, buddy, I

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really love that I'm excited for you to share, I'm going to make

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sure that all the links are near this in the show notes so that

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people can come up. If people want to carry on the

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conversation, if they want to interact with you, if they want

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to see some of those smoking more vulnerable posts, where is

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the best place for them.

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So I'm my website, organic pilates.co.uk, you'll find all

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my Instagram and Facebook links. Also, you'll find the link to my

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book on there as well. And you can sign up for my newsletter on

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there, too. And I'll be in touch.

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Amazing. And I love the book. I love the book because it's you

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know, it's so unique, takes you on this journey and all of those

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things, and I but I also really like how it feels. I really like

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the size of it in our gym space next to my Pilates mat. And it

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is that kind of thing where I'm like, Well, what am I going to

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do I know I'll just sit on my mat with yours, but and then you

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know, and then it unfolds and I kind of go from there. And

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that's a really nice gift and think that the book does. So for

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people. So if anyone is unsure and doesn't know where to start,

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go and get the book. I think we're going to wrap it up there.

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But in the patron part, I'm going to ask you some quick fire

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round, personal nosy questions. How do you feel about that?

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You get scared? Don't know what you're gonna ask is? No, no, no,

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no,

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no ask you because I put this No.

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No, just come in to have a conversation with me. It's so

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small, small things that you can make big changes over a long

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period of time. So if you're struggling with anything, do do

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get in touch.

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And if people are thinking about coming and doing one to one with

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me, it's so interesting that like small changes over a period

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of time. Again, like I think the conversation one of the

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conversations we had last week was a round that right of like,

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it's almost like you don't see the changes happening within

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yourself. When like at the beginning, there's always that

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like, at least the pattern that I see when they come away is

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this is really scary. And there's a level of defence and

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resistance. And then and we've talked about that a little bit

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and then that drops. And then it so almost like oh, it's just

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conversations, right? We just hang out and we have

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conversations. And then I'm pretty sure this tiny part of

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your brain or anyone on board. Is this even doing anything?

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We're just chatting. And then there's this bit and this what

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you were saying, Whoa, so much has changed. And I hadn't even

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realised. Yeah. Does that. Does that feel accurate to how you

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would describe the journey? Yeah,

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and sometimes I can't even remember what we've talked

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about. But something Yeah, something's happened. I mean,

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look at my hair. I didn't even have hair like I didn't have

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green hair when

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I might get you just send and I might put it in the show notes

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actually, because like your transformation has been

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physical, intellectual, emotional and spiritual, right?

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Like the whole thing that you don't look like the same person.

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Your energy is so much bigger. Your goals, your ambitions, your

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dislike, like all of it is just massively expanded from

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Yeah, yeah, I feel like I've stepped into high priestess

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energy or something like really have and you know what, so many

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people have commented on social media, like, you look like

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you're stepping into your power. And I actually and I said this

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to you the other day, like, you know, every year you've got I

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feel like this is the year for me, and actually do feel that

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this year, and I feel like actually energetically it's

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different. It actually feels different. This is this is just

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what happens, I think. Yeah,

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and I would say that's self actualization. And so you know,

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we started with the like, What even is

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what does it mean? It's

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that Yeah, yeah. And so has that like, has your understanding of

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what self actualization is changed? Yeah,

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because this is it. Where do I go next? What will happen next?

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And so my last question for you do go into the other bit. At the

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beginning, you were like, I was looking for a business coach and

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accountability. And then you got me. You were to describe to

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somebody not using my language using yours, what I actually do

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with people, what would you say is

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a good question, I would say, you hold a mirror up to them,

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and then drag them through a little bit and around and

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shuffle them around and shake, shake, shake them out, and then

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rebuild them. But that if I very nice way, in a very gentle way,

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and a very kind of your end, and you're like me now going, how

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did I get here from a year ago?

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I am really going to try and like every time anyone describes

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that you go through with me? I am yet to find anyone who

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describes it in a kind, gentle other than resistance? Has it

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actually been painful at any point.

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There has been moments of like, actually, yeah, pain. That was

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not I wouldn't say much physical pain, you don't get your whip

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out or anything. But I would say there is moments where you

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anguish maybe

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I'm gonna go with a different question. Was it worth it? Would

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you recommend it? Yes,

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yes, yes. Yes, absolutely.

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Um, and, for me, ultimately, the proof is in the pudding, as they

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say, right. Like, you wouldn't be coming on this podcast show

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that for me, you know, we wouldn't be having this

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conversation. The energy wouldn't be the way that it is

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if that wasn't true. And yeah, I don't mind ultimately, I don't

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mind whether people like me or not, or whether it is painful,

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because I know on the other side, it is worth it. And you

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step into being the powerful you that you are, I have always seen

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you as

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trust the process is what I'll say. And it is a process and

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yeah, as with any journey, there's ups and there's downs,

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but ultimately, at the end, it's all worth it.

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Thank you so much for coming and having this really honest

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conversation. I am looking forward to the next bit Soros

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receiving the patron pop. This has been adulting with Ebonie,

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I've been Ebonie you've been great. Thank you so much for all

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of your support. Please keep listening, liking, writing and

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sharing so that more people can enjoy and engage with us. If you

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want even more of me and more importantly, even more of you in

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your world. Take the next step become a patron and even Haven

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member. Get your free human design chart report or your

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compass aka the value filter. To begin your lower. Go to www dot

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Ebonieallardd.com forward slash welcome more. And I will see you

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next time.

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Adulting with Ebonie
Your weekly dose of introspection and contemplation on what it means and takes to be a conscious, creative adult with a misfit mind.
Adulting with Ebonie is the weekly podcast that brings together Neurodiversity, Human Design and Embodiment so that Gen X or Millennial Misfits (and late-diagnosed Neurospices) become empowered, embodied and fully expressed. Where I actively encourage you to feel your feelings rather than think them, glow up not grow up and become full of yourself, because who the f*ck else should you be full of? Each week I have real and raw conversations about what it takes to be fully resourced and have happy healthy intimate relationships as a dopamine-deficient adult wanting to create a better future by being the change you want to see in the world.
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Ebonie Allard

Ebonie (Alchemy) Allard is a Modern Mystic, a Misfit turned Maven, an Award winning International Master Coach, Certified in Human Design and mBit (Multiple Brain Integration Technique) an Author, Artist and Speaker.

Professionally: She’s the creator of The Misfit to Maven Way, The Value Filter™ system and ‘The AWE (Adulting with Ebonie) Podcast.’

Using a wide range of both ancient and modern medicine she facilitates Self Actualisation in self-selected weirdos and neurodivergent beings.

Her work is specifically focused on empowerment, embodiment & full self-expression.

She shares her wisdom in online courses, intimate retreats and bespoke 1:1 experiences.

Personally: She's a pussycat slash mermaid - when she’s not working you’ll find her splashing about in the sea, curled up in a sunny spot or off chasing a rainbow.